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PostPosted: Thu 18:20, 06 Dec 2007    Post subject:

With all the buffs they've been getting Retribution paladins have become a much more viable option, especially for PvE. The problem is indeed the paladin actually being a good one and when it comes to the retribution spec there aren't many of those around. I've seen WWS reports of certain paladins doing at the very least, 1300 DPS(Their peak reaching 1700 DPS) but if you compare that to ANY retribution paladin on Kilrogg that'll bring us back to my last sentence which is that we don't have anyone like that lying around.

As for Protection paladins those have also been buffed, particularly through the talent Combat Expertise which now gives them 10% bonus stamina which puts them a lot closer to warriors in terms of health. In terms of avoidance there isn't that much of a difference as far as I know but in order to be able to diminish the chance for him to get a crushing blow a paladin would need a total of 65% avoidance at the very least as opposed to a warrior who would need 25%(A total of 40% avoidance difference) and that's only protection paladins who would be able to do that at all with their holy shield ability.
In terms of threat generation they're very good at it, and in terms of AoE tanking in particular their capabilities surpass that of any warrior or druid. I've seen protection paladins holding together 12 mobs from AoE groups, and more specifically in this case those non elite birds and warriors in ZA before Akil'zon.

But we don't seem to have an abundance of holy paladins in this guild so I personally wouldn't like to see any of them respeccing to any other spec any time soon.
Nightpromise
PostPosted: Thu 17:59, 06 Dec 2007    Post subject:

Some time ago i've made an SP heroic run with a tankladin, i was quite impressed.
In 90% blue gear, the guy was giving me might, tanking 2 mobs, and i was not able to overaggro.
He had a macro or something popping out randomly, something like "You are supposed to hit me", quite funny Smile
I'd like to see more tankladin and retadin around, i'm sure that if they know how to play and what stats/equip choose, they can be quite interesting.
Ozyrys
PostPosted: Wed 17:51, 05 Dec 2007    Post subject: PALADIN.Talent buiilds,advices for healing,tankin and dps.

Paladin is a little diffucult class.His a hybrid so its hard to know wich are the important stats for him in diffrent situations :healing ,dps or tanking.I read a little on froums ,tested on myself and found about 5 important main builds and I called it :
-Holydin (pve)
-Tankadin (pve)
-Retadin (pve)
-Schokadin (pvp)
-Warradin (pvp)
I also add and aritcal for people who just started playing a paladin or making an alt who wanna grind very fast to 70lv.
-AoE grinding expa

HOLYDIN:
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/paladin/talents.html?0550312052013253105150024100000000000000005000000000000000000000
This is a very typical Build for Paladins PVE . It has imrpoved range for auras,BoK and improves BoM.Has all skills improved for healing.How to put stats ? Healing bonus , intelect (to 10.5 K mana is enough),If u have 10.5K mana focus on Healing bonus and MP5.Dont watch so much on spell crit couse it will come with u gear.
Addons: Healbot,pallypower,SCT.Healbot is a very helpfull in not making so much overhealing.good is to use some shortcuts in Healbot for downranks!

TANKADIN:
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/paladin/talents.html?0000000000000000000025305133500021520215510500500000000000000000
Maybe someone dont know but paladin tank is the best class on holding aggro on each mob.His a pefect Off tank and also could be a MT(someone saied how ,he will lose mana and then what ?).Well he wont lose mana.He has seals of wisdom and judgement od wisdom wich regenerate quiet fast his mana while he is tanking.
Why he is a good holder aggro on many mobs ?Tankadin has four skills in holding aggro by making dmg to each mob in the same time.Its retribution aura,Blessing of sanctuary,Holy shield and consecration skill.Each of those skills makes a spell dmg wich increase u threat by 80%. Each guuild have at least one tankadin .Why ? He grab very fast adds from Bosses and hold them very "short".Important stats : strength,value of ur block (very important for palladin),defense,parry (same things for Warrior tank).Spelld dmg will come with ur gear.Dont watch how much u have holy bonus dmg.

RETADIN:
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/paladin/talents.html?5500000000000000000000000000000000000000005523035100033125331051
Its a typical build for DPS raider.Important thing is to have a very heavy 2h weapon.Combinate with using judgemnet of crusader and then seal of command.Thats all the main things what are important for him.What stats should we wear ? Well on first place is :Atack power with Strength,spell dmg and then agility.

SCHOKADIN:
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/paladin/talents.html?0555000250310050135000000000000000000000000523530002000100000000
Its a holy paladin with nice spell dmg.Works only good on pvp.Use very often consecration and judgment of crusader and seal of righthouse.Find a very fast one hand weapon and with spell dmg Shield.(its like being an elemental Shammy).Important stats are :Spell dmg,Spell crit and on 3rd place Intelect.

WARRADIN: (WTF is that?!)
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/paladin/talents.html?2000000000000000000050325000023000500000005010535102003005031000
Its like being an arms warrior.Only goood on PvP .Find a very fast 2h weapon(maybe some polream with about 2,2-3,2 speed but not more) to get full 4 swings in 8 seconds when u got reckoning.When you have problems with geeting full swings four , use seal of crusader.If its ok use then judgemnt of crusader and on it seal of command.Important for him stats are :Critical strike,strength ,atack power,hit rating.Intelect,spell dmg and spell crit are here usless.You dont need to have even 1K mana couse u dont have to heal urself and use some magic spells.Its very nice against Melle dps!

AoE GRINDGING (how to get 70lv fast):
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/paladin/talents.html?0000000000000000000005302033400021520210000000000000000000000000
Aside from mages, Paladins have the highest potential for AoE grinding.With this build u can hold 5-8 mobs and 2-3 elites with no problem. Use all the time concectraion skill,Blessing of sancturay on youself and holy shield.Dont use any of spell dmg seals ,its usless and take a lot of mana.Use seal of winsdom/of light when you are in low mana or health(mainly seal of light).This build helps u very fast to get from 42lv to 70lv.Using this build on lower lv is impossible and hard.from 1-42lv stay on retribution with improved seal of crusader and seal of command.Thats all about this build.Stats for aoe grinding is :str and ap,defense etc.(like for tank but u can use also dps items).You can be also very helpfull on instances by tanking.




Thats all.If u have some sugestions or your have some own experiance about palladins equipment,talent builds and stats whisper me any time ;] xD

P.S when I will have more time I will submit equipment for Holy paladin


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